“Teach and practice, practice and teach — that is all we have; that is all we are good for; that is all we ever ought to do.”Ernest Holmes

At the Center for Spiritual Living Capistrano Valley our ministers guide, inspire and teach the power of mind and natural law to create our perfect life and a world that works for everyone. Grounded in the teaching of principle and affirmative prayer, our ministers offer counseling, prayer support, inspiring talks and relatable insight into spirituality guided by new thought/ancient wisdom.

Dr. Heather Dawn Clark leads our spiritual community with modern-day insight and interpretation of spiritual texts and teachings including the Science of Mind textbook and the bible.

Dr. Heather Dawn Clark, Spiritual Leader

Dr. Heather Clark serves as Spiritual Director of the Center in San Clemente, California. She was first licensed as a minister in 1992 serving as staff minister in the Calgary Center for a year. For the next six years, she served as senior minister in Bonita, California. She has served as a member of the Board of Education for four years, the Board of Directors for five years. She served on the Asilomar committee for five years. Dr. Heather passionately participated on the joint ICSL/UCSL Integration Committee. Dr. Heather received a Bachelor of Education in 1968 from the University of Saskatchewan and taught all grades, ages and abilities. A personal awakening to the Divine Presence in the early 80s was her motivation to find a like-minded community. With that in mind, she came upon a small independent New Thought Center and was a founding member of the first Science of Mind Center in Edmonton in 1985. Dr. Heather loves to teach the principles of the Science of Mind in clear, practical ways, engaging her students by drawing upon her rich knowledge of literature and sacred traditions to illustrate the concepts. Her strengths are faith, love, health, honesty and creativity. Dr. Heather takes her commitments seriously and takes herself lightly.


Rev. Karyn Allen

Staff Minister; Creative Arts; Bookkeeper

Rev. Karyn has been in the Science of Mind teachings and at the Center for Spiritual Living Capistrano Valley since 1998, and has served in just about every volunteer position available over the years.  Currently she facilitates the events and/or services that include the arts (music, movement, visual arts, etc…).  She became a licensed minister of the Centers for Spiritual Living in 2011, ordained 2014, and oversees the Creative Arts Ministry of the center.  In addition to her ministry, she is also the center’s bookkeeper.Rev. Karyn has been a dancer since 1974, has been a performing musician since 2003, and her instructing background includes three years as a Teacher’s Assistant in the Saddleback Valley School District and two years as a Creative Dance Instructor for toddlers, and she has been teaching the Science of Mind since 2011.  Her ministry incorporates her knowledge and embodiment of the Science of Mind philosophy with her performing arts and teaching background to create an inspiring method of learning about one’s self through creativity. She believes that everyone has a unique gift to share with the world and it can be revealed through the Science of Mind teachings and the arts.Rev. Karyn was born and raised in Dana Point, CA and currently resides in Mission Viejo, CA.  She has three children and one grandchild, all of whom are the lights of her life.  She is a sports fan, enjoys yummy food, and loves to laugh out loud to her favorite television show, “The Big Bang Theory”.  A favorite quote of hers by Martha Graham reads, “There is a vitality, a life force, an energy, a quickening, that is translated through you into action, and because there is only one of you in all time, this expression is unique.”

Rev. Judee Chapman

Assistant Minister; Wednesday evening service

Rev. Judee Chapman has been a student of New Thought philosophy her entire life as she attended the Unity “Church of Truth” in Pasadena, Ca. for many years.  Since 1988, she has been a student of Science of Mind and a Religious Science minister since 2003. Her ministry includes organizing and facilitating the mid-week service “Wednesday’s Wisdom – Practicing the Presence,” as well as performing weddings and memorial services.  Rev. Judee is a dynamic speaker, leader and teacher. This flourishing service is not only a mid-week faith lift but also an opportunity for ministers and practitioners to speak about the Science of Mind.

Rev. Bruce Fredenburg

Staff Minister; Science of Mind in Mental Health

Rev. Bruce is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, practicing in Laguna Hills, California since 1982. He is a Clinical Member of the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists, a Child Specialist and Divorce Coach with Collaborative Divorce Solutions and a member of the International Association of Collaborative Professionals. Rev. Bruce is also a professional speaker who brings wit and humor into everything he does.

Rev. Arpad Petrass

Staff Minister

Rev. Arpad Petrass has been a member of this congregation since 1992. He was ordained as a Center For Spiritual Living Minister in 2013.Rev Arpad has served as Spiritual Director at the Center for Spiritual Living South County, a Staff Minister at the Pacific Center for Religious Science, and currently serves our center as Staff Minister. He is a gifted speaker and spiritual teacher that loves motivating individuals to change their lives through Spiritual Awareness. He says: “Don’t settle for being Ordinary. Try to become Extraordinary in everything that you do!”When Rev Arpad is not speaking or teaching he has over 40 years in Creative Entertainment as a Scenic and Lighting Designer and Technical Director.He is an award winning Photographer that enjoys finding and sharing beauty in everything that he sees.He prides himself as being a family man and has been with his lovely wife Peg over 40 years and has two wonderful children Jessica and Bryan.

Rev. Carla Schiratis

Staff Minister; Healing Ministry and Congregation Outreach

Rev. Carla has been an avid student in the study of metaphysics and the spiritual path.  This passion led her to studying the Science of Mind course work and becoming a licensed practitioner.  Fueled with God’s direction and the love of this philosophy, Carla became a licensed minister in 2011 and was ordained in 2016.Rev. Carla served as a staff minister at Center for Spiritual Living Newport Mesa for five years, prior to being led to Center for Spiritual Living Capistrano Valley in 2016. During that time, she served as the Director of Practitioners, Center Chaplin, and assisted presiding at Sunday Services each week. Carla’s role at the CSLCV is clergy of the Healing Ministry and Congregation Outreach. Knowing that life is perfect, but not always easy, it is Carla’s great honor to offer spiritual support and guidance to the members of our community.Rev. Carla enjoys teaching accredited Science of Mind classes, speaking, spiritual counseling, performing weddings, memorials, and christening ceremonies.  In addition, she has twice traveled to Bali as a spiritual leader and co-director, as it is her joy to passionately live and share our teaching wherever she is.Rev. Carla is a native of California and currently resides in San Clemente.  She is married to Stephen, has three children and is the prideful grandmother of three.  Her passions are gardening, cooking, reading and to live with a deep spiritual connection with all of life and to share it generously with others.


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Marlene Cuckler

RScP; Board of Trustees-Secretary; Teen Advisor

I became a Practitioner in 2001. It was the last Practitioner class that treated for our new minister, Dr. Heather. I became a Practitioner because of my love for classes, Spiritual growth and connection. My volunteer positions currently are Practitioner, Choir, Hospitality and Teen Group Advisor. I started helping in our Youth Church when my…

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Patrick Freeman


Patrick Freeman has been a Licensed Practitioner at the Center for Spiritual Living – Capistrano Valley since 2013. He is also a member of the choir. As a long-time student of the Science of Mind, Patrick has always lived a spiritual life but found his heart’s home at CSLCV. Patrick and his wife, Joann, run a successful insurance agency specializing in health insurance including Medicare. Born and raised in San Francisco, he has served in the US Army, including tours in Korea and Vietnam. He enjoys swimming, skiing, sailing and hiking in his spare time and also spending time with his three adult children.

Dave Friedman


Dave has been a Practitioner of Science of Mind since the Summer of 2013. An active member of CSLCV, Dave is the organizer and facilitator of the Men’s Group, part of the Choir, and helps with the Youth program. He also acts as a teaching assistant, and is generally around to help out with whatever needs to be done. For him, “the process of becoming a Practitioner was one of the best things I’ve done, up until now. The revealing to me of my pure Truth was and continues to be well worth the journey. While I am and will always be on my adventure in personal discovery, I am also able to assist. others with their life challenges. I consider this a tremendous gift.Dave is a lover of music, sports and anything outside. Travel is also a favorite activity. Born and raised in Ohio, and fortunate enough to call Boston home for 25 years, Southern California has been home for Dave for 10 years.

Aidan Greaney


Aidan Joined the Center in 2007 and became a trustee in 2009 serving six years. In addition to his work as a trustee, Aidan volunteers as an usher, in hospitality, on the Home that We Own committee, as a  practitioner and on our Commitment Experiment. Aidan has a warm gentle soul and wants the best for himself and everyone he knows. He wants to best possible experiences for our Center. He believes that through Affirmative Prayer all things are possible. He became a trustee so he could contribute to the good of the Center. He loves his career as a mortgage loan originator who works with real estate agents and their clients in buying and selling homes.

Joanne Leone


Joanne is a professional speaker, writer, organizer, certified life coach and Master Prosperity Teacher. Her life experience as well as tools learned while on pilgrimages to Glastonbury England, Sedona and Mt. Shasta, as well as fire walking and experiencing ancient spiritual practices, has given her great insights she likes to share as tools to make life better. She received her practitioner’s license in 1998, and it has been her joy to share truth and inner knowing with others, using positive tools of healing. In her books and workshops, she uses practical easy insights, based on her own experience, to shed new light on ways to have a more peaceful life filled with love and joy.

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Pam Rocke


Pamela (Pam) Rocke is a licensed Practitioner of Science of Mind since 2011. As a member of Center for Spiritual Living – Capistrano Valley since 2004, Pam has acted in various leadership roles at the Center. Currently, Pam is the assistant Practitioner to Rev. Alene Kramer and is the Sunday Coordinator responsible for the successful flow of our Sunday Services. Pam says about Science of Mind, “I believe this teaching, Science of Mind, is the best path to a life and world that provides everyone with peace, dignity, and enough resources to live a hearty, love filled life. As a licensed Practitioner, I make a difference in the world by working with people directly, and by strengthening this particular spiritual community.”

Hans Smith

Prayer Partner

Hans Smith has been a member of CSL since 2000. He has been serving as a practitioner for the last 7 years. He is very happy to serve in this and in other capacities in our center. Hans lives the good life here in San Clemente, and works in the Landscape and appraisal fields.Hans is a people person and loves to do treatments so people can see the divinity that resides within each and every one of us. He sees every person as a precious blessing in his life, and encourages all of us to be our highest, best, and most evolved human we can be. Hans is happy to serve all members of his center family in any way he can.

Toni Sparks

RScP; Board of Trustees-Trustee

Toni has been a member of the Center for Spiritual Living – Capistrano Valley since 1997. She is a licensed Practitioner of Science of Mind and the leader of the Animal Kinship Ministry. She enjoys singing in the choir and teaching in the Youth Church. She also acts as a pleasant greeter on Sunday mornings and gives her time on the Hospitality committee. She “believes in service and the oneness of all Life. This led her to become a vegan in 1982 and to get involved with the Animal Kinship Ministry. “We support the human-animal bond through prayer, education and service.”

Kathy Storey

RScP; Animal Kinship Ministry

Kathy has been a member of the Center for Spiritual Living Capistrano Valley since 2003. She serves as a licensed Practitioner for this Center because “I know prayer changes everything. Love and service has been my pathway to Spirit, so it’s not a surprise that I head up the Volunteers Ministry. I serve in hospitality, bookstore and I am a Practitioner for the Animal Kinship Ministry, as well as serving on the Board of Trustees. I have been in recovery since 1998 and one of my favorite things to do is to teach our Principles.”

Cheryl Lyman


Cheryl Lyman was born and raised a Baptist in Arizona. She was married in the Catholic church, as her husband was Catholic. While her husband owned and operated a restaurant, together raising their two young children, Cheryl began her career as a Mary Kay consultant. Cheryl quickly rose to Senior Sales Director. It was while at Mary Kay that Cheryl was introduced to the book. “The Power of Your Subconscious Mind” by Dr. Joseph Murphy. She continued to read and study works by similar authors and thinkers long after leaving Mary Kay.

The family eventually moved to San Clemente, where they owned and operated a popular café. In 2015, Cheryl met a woman who was taking a class at the Center. Her new friend remarked that she was taking a class at the Center, quoting from a text book, “what you think about, you bring about”. Cheryl recognized this as one of Joseph Murphy’s most popular sayings, and the connection was made.

Cheryl says, “I fell in love with everything about this church, and couldn’t wait to become a Practitioner”. She has been a licensed Practitioner since mid-2019. Cheryl’s husband made his transition some years ago. Their adult children run the café, along with Cheryl’s help.

Cheryl chairs the Membership Committee at our Center

Kay Allen


Raised in the teaching, Kay is a proud newly Licensed Practitioner for CSL Capistrano Valley. Kay grew up in the youth program at CSLCV and in their teen years, found a deep appreciation for its blessing in their life. Now, as a young adult Kay has worked with youth in the program for over four years, and has co-advised the In-Flight Teens since 2016. Through participating in classes and seminars, and conversations with toddlers and teens, Kay has found passion in Spiritual Education for all ages, knowing that the Wisdom of the Ages is imbued everywhere, always.

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